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Drop Out And Get Schooled: The Case for Thinking Twice About College

Drop Out And Get Schooled: The Case for Thinking Twice About College

byPatrick Bet-David
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Marko
5.0 out of 5 stars Read this before you go to university.
Reviewed in Canada 🇨🇦 on September 26, 2021
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I completed my first year of university (BBA) and I was pretty dissapointed with the content and started questioning if it was worth it. I had many arguments against university and the status quo of you have to go to univeristy or college. This book gives you a lot of clarity and goes over key decsion factors, this book could potentially change the trajectory of your life and save you thousands in student loan debt and most importantly TIME. Whether you're trying to be an entrepreneur or get a secure job, this book will offer a different perspective from what you've always been told by society and it will help you make that tough decision. I apreciate Patrick very much, his videos from Valuetainment and this book have changed my life. I look forward to reading his other books. Thank you PBD.
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Birdwrasse4
5.0 out of 5 stars Amazing book!
Reviewed in Canada 🇨🇦 on February 27, 2017
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Extremely helpful. I am 16 and in the process of deciding if i want to go to post-secondary or not. This book helped me complete my decision. It was very insightful and provided a lot of good arguments to why some people should avoid college. I especially liked the last chapter where they displayed an example of how somebody would go about making the decision if college is right for them.
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4.0 out of 5 stars A good read.
Reviewed in Canada 🇨🇦 on March 27, 2017
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An interesting insight into what Education means to you, and more importantly the best way for every individual to attain an Education that best corresponds to their inherent abilities and skills. It is a great quick read, as I started and finished before I had to start my day. Overall, a good read.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Clear and direct.
Reviewed in Canada 🇨🇦 on February 11, 2017
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Great book. My boyfriend quit his job to start a Mobile detailing business in windsor Ontario Canada. CP GROUP CANADA. This book confirmed his decision. We are very lucky to have read this book at the right time in our lives.
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Leandro
5.0 out of 5 stars Five Stars
Reviewed in Canada 🇨🇦 on December 20, 2017
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easy to understand
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Nils
5.0 out of 5 stars Excellent livre pour ouvrir le débat sur qui doit aller à l'université et qui devrait l'éviter
Reviewed in France 🇫🇷 on February 18, 2017
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Ce livre remet en question le dogme selon lequel il faut absolument aller à l'université. Patrick Bet-David (PBD), qui a écrit ce livre, précise à plusieurs reprises qu'évidemment, il ne recommande pas à ceux qui veulent devenir médecin, avocat ou ingénieur de ne pas aller à l'université. En revanche, il se base sur des sources sérieuses pour expliquer des points très importants comme qui doit et ne doit pas aller à l'université et pourquoi. Il soulève aussi bien sûr le problème de la dette colossale liée aux frais de scolarité et présente des données choquantes sur le coût des études.

Par ailleurs, il donne des pistes sur des sujets importants pour la société qui ne sont pas enseignés à l'école mais qui seraient utiles à aborder pour les étudiants comme le mariage, comment être un bon parent ou comment fonctionnent les impôts (ce qui a le mérite d'être original).

Toute cette réflexion est basée notamment sur son expérience personnelle (lui-même a arrêté l'université).
Son succès à travers son entreprise et les connaissances qu'il partage, notamment grâce à son excellente chaîne Youtube Valuetainment, prouvent qu'il cherche ici à mettre en avant l'éducation plutôt que les diplômes. Il se présente d'ailleurs comme un autodidacte qui a appris en particulier grâce à ses mentors et aux plus de 1 200 livres de business qu'il a lus.
Bien que le système qu'il dénonce soit le système américain, il y a aussi des points communs avec d'autres systèmes, notamment en Europe et en France. La question de la pertinence pour autant de personnes d'aller à l'université se pose quand autant de jeunes diplômés sont au chômage ou sous-employés.

Points positifs:
- Le livre est court (une centaine de pages) donc il se lit facilement et rapidement;
- L'anglais utilisé est assez simple donc pas besoin d'avoir un niveau d'anglais très élevé pour comprendre ce que l'auteur veut partager;
- Après avoir lu ce livre, on a plein de questions profondes à se poser et à poser à son entourage sur le sujet, ce qui permet de vraiment poser le débat, ce qui est l'objet du livre donc ça tombe bien!
- Bien que l'objet du livre soit d'ouvrir un débat, il ne le fait pas en ayant simplement un avis provoquant et en voyant les choses en noir et blanc;
- L'avis de PBD est nuancé et intelligent puisqu'il précise que l'université est un passage obligatoire pour certaines professions bien que pour la plupart des étudiants, l'université n'est souvent pas le meilleur choix. Du coup, c'est agréable que le livre ne soit pas seulement polémique mais surtout intelligent, pertinent et nous pousse à utiliser notre esprit critique!

Points négatifs:
- Ce livre n'est pas encore traduit en français^^;
- Le système dénoncé est le système américain donc certains problèmes sont spécifiques aux États-Unis bien que dans l'ensemble, le livre permet de se poser de bonnes questions, quel que soit le pays dont on parle.

Pour conclure, je vous encourage à lire ce livre (et je vous félicite d'avoir eu le courage de lire mon pavé^^), particulièrement si vous êtes étudiant ou si vous l'envisagez mais aussi si vous êtes un parent dont les enfants sont étudiants ou envisagent de le devenir. Ce livre peut vous aider à vous poser de bonnes questions sur le sujet et à prendre une décision plus éclairée.

Enfin, je vous invite aussi à découvrir le reste du contenu de Patrick Bet-David, à la fois sur son site internet et sur sa chaîne Youtube. Il parle notamment d'entrepreneuriat et son contenu est vraiment génial donc ne vous en privez pas!!!
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Dan Windler
5.0 out of 5 stars this book wasn't necessarily written for a person like me, but as someone who has advised others ...
Reviewed in the United States 🇺🇸 on February 16, 2017
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As a college graduate, this book wasn't necessarily written for a person like me, but as someone who has advised others to go get their secondary education, I was curious about other opinions on the matter and I was eager to read this book once I'd heard the author (Patrick Bet-David aka PBD) was on the verge of releasing it.

It did not disappoint.

Being very much in debt from my own experience (a soul crushing debt mind you), I was curious about PBD's take on schooling, the necessity of it, the price, and anything else that maybe he had considered that I had not. I found myself in agreement with just about every point he'd made, especially when I compared it to my experience. What I got from it was all of that and quite a bit more.

This book is a fantastic education tool, something that should be required reading for high school seniors at the very least. The book goes through the paces of who should probably go to college, who should look at community college first, those that probably shouldn't go to college, and even touches on the value of trade schools. It isn't meant to disparage schooling, in fact, it encourages it, specifically for those that need it to do their future careers (think STEM). What it does offer are questions to help you clarify why you're going, why you may want to choose another path to get there, or why you may want to look elsewhere. It also covers a variety of miscellanea such as the cost to produce the average textbook, the rising price of tuition, even the lagging average income compared to the tuition rates. Give you a freebie here, it's not a pretty picture, and as someone who is buried under soul crushing debt, I can attest to accuracy of the numbers.

I'll spare you the details of my story, but I'll happily tell you that had I had this book, I wouldn't be a statistic, burdened by what has thus far been an unbearable, nearly un-repayable debt load. The system as it is, has failed me.
My biggest criticism of the book is probably the cover. Sure the book catches the eye with the red, the trash can, and the title Drop Out and Get Schooled. Where I think it missies the mark is the small print for the rest of the title. The Case for Thinking Twice About College. I feel it should be more prominent, as it's is what the book is all about, but thats just my opinion.

Take a look, you won't be disappointed. Expect to walk away with quite a bit more clarity about what you, or someone you're concerned for should do in regards to college. Please take the time to read these words of PBD, Tom Ellsworth, and a few other "guest" writers, they might just spare you from being a debt laden statistic like myself.

Cheers.
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Johnny Nguyen
5.0 out of 5 stars I think school is a scam. You want to know why? Read this. It a must.
Reviewed in the United States 🇺🇸 on March 19, 2017
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So, How can I start this? Well, I will be honest with you. I hate and despise school with a passion. And the word hate is very strong. And I can hear all of you who are so blinded by the this machine. people are play the dangerous game ever played. I don't believe in school. I don't value it. Matter of fact, I think it is a waste of time. If you are lost and you don't know what you are doing. Get the heck out of there. You might be saying. Education is the way to succeed in life. Who told you that? What? Your parents? Your peers? Or worse your teachers. Please, nothing is farther from the truth. The school and the knowledge the school teaches is lame. And you can't use it. Please don't give the bull crap. You spend ton of dollar just so you can get educated. Get out of here. What a waste of time. Now, what am I saying. Well, you think it the only way to succeed in life. Without it. You will be nothing. So, you been told by people. Right. Well, they are wrong. You know why? Because they are stuck in the matrix. They believe that the way is to be educated by school or college. And the student go to school and believe in this non-sense. And they get into student loan debt and they can't declare bankruptcy. Whaa? Now, after you have read this. Your mad at me right. And your mad at what I am saying. But it because it perception and I understand how the mind works. I can mold your thinking and how you think. But school never taught how the brain or mind works. Do you know why? because i was label a special ed. I was put in elementary school to highschool. And they say I have a learning disability. Really? Sign, I feel sad for people who think school is the only way to succeed. It not. I don't value school. But I value education. True education. Education that you can apply in the real world. Most kids or student when they get out of college. Their world turn upside down. And the stuff they learn. They cannot apply in the real world.
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Peter Lipentine
5.0 out of 5 stars and with some learning turned into great business ventures
Reviewed in the United States 🇺🇸 on February 13, 2017
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This book written by a college dropout, and co-authored by a person with a 4-year undergraduate degree, an MBA; discusses the potential in you to self-teach you information, which Colleges may not. In the book entrepreneur ideas are mentioned which only require an idea, and with some learning turned into great business ventures. The College drop out author did not have much education but was able to get a job at Morgan Stanley by thinking out of the box, and even managed to get into The Harvard Business School three year “OPM Program” which requires participants to run a company that makes a minimum of $10,000,000 a year!

So who should go to college when business disciplines can be self-taught from mentors with proven track records? Well the most obvious choice would be Professionals, who need advanced training in professions such as sciences and medicine, and then there are people who know exactly what they want in life who both would make ideal College participants.

So who should not go to college? People who have an obsessive personality, people who are fully undecided about where they want to go with life, people who are great in sales, people who are a bit rebellious and don’t like following rules, self-disciplined and competitive people, people that are good at making friends, and people who have a mentor.

As the book states before dropping out of College you will need a plan to achieve a number of things in your life, the most important things you will need in your plan is some way to: generate a source of income, to learn sales, learn self-discipline, to work under a CEO Entrepreneur for free, and to start a business.

Think about all the dropouts that have formed important businesses: Steve Jobs from Apple, Bill Gates from Microsoft, not to mention that guy from Facebook. If you are seriously considering dropping out of College because you want to be a College-dropout-to freedom then this book is your solution.
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Elias M.
5.0 out of 5 stars MUST READ!! Understand yourself FIRST and understand HOW TO GET EDUCATED
Reviewed in the United States 🇺🇸 on February 16, 2017
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This is a MUST read book for everyone who is a bit confused about going to college and starting the correct conversation with yourself on WHY you should or shouldn't attend.

THIS IS NOT A BOOK saying you should drop out, this is a book to help you better understand YOURSELF especially at such a young age of 18 to make the best decision about furthering your education and the reality of your financial INVESTMENT and possible debt which it will create for you once your graduate.

Patrick does a great job of debating his own ideas and giving you great information for you to be best informed. College is not for everyone but BY NO MEANS DOES HE approve of a LAZY WAY out of not getting educated and saying I want to be an entrepreneur. IT'S a deeper self questionnaire you must ASK YOURSELF and be HONEST and get a reality check. Patrick also gives insight on some of the subjects which should be included in our education system which can help young adults in a big way to start their life on the right path and introduce them to the real world of true responsibility

My personal experience is...I stopped going to College because I didn't know what I wanted to study and kept switching majors. This definitely would have helped my process in PROPERLY making the best decision for myself. It also gave me MORE CONFIDENCE in understanding it's okay that I CHOSE not to continue my college education. Ironically I am still trying to pay off my student loans for over 10 years. Will be done with it next year !

Thank you Patrick for making me feel empowered about my decision and understanding education is a JOURNEY not 4 years and I am done.
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