After owning an Echo 5 we purchased the larger Echo 8. However, the Echo 8 does not have the full screen clock feature nor does it allow you to turn off the tips on the home screen. The clock characters are only 3/4" high. This made the device useless as a night time bedside clock which was the purpose we purchased it for. So beware there are significant feature differences between an Echo 5 and an Echo 8, not just a larger screen.