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This book , I would have to say, is a great value. It is so rich and full of references to the western classical mythologies of antiquity and to influential writers of the Middle Ages (Marcilio Ficino), that I felt like I was getting a real education. I have another book by this writer, Liz Greene, called Saturn: A New Look at an Old Devil; and I just have to say that Ms. Greene is a gifted writer who has a very engaging mind. Yes, I have studied astrology. And while Astrology of Fate is obviously a great and enriching read for students of astrology, it is presented intelligently, and in such a way that anyone interested in psychology, or just deeper questions and issues in life - particularly with regard to suffering, oppression, powerlessness, to name a few - would certainly be intrigued. The book is heavy on Pluto, but Pluto is a heavyweight, astrologically speaking. It can't be easy to write about ideas and topics associated with the subject of fate, but Greene does quite well with it, even when, at times, the complexity of the themes are reflected in the writing. Especially interesting was the section on Myth and the Zodiac. There were insights shared here that have really helped increase my understanding, or potential understanding, of others' lives and dilemmas. This book is very, very reasonably priced for the plutonian dragon's hoard of riches it contains! [My apologies for not underlining book titles.]
I have read this book through once and then referred back to it many, many times over the years. This book may be Liz's magnum opus. It really does bring together in one book many of Greene's main ideas as far as astrology is concerned. It is very philopsophical however and would not be a book for the beginning student, nor the student wishing to get specific info on certain astrological principles. It is very much a Ninth House book! I found it fascinating reading, though challenging. And I marveled at Liz's depth of knowledge and insight into the human condition. Her analysis of the 12 Zodiacal Signs as they relate to Greco-Roman mythology was really neat. The section on Pluto as an integral indicator of Fate was especially well done. All in all a very fine work!
Until I read this book, I thought I just couldn't receive any more enlightenment on Pluto, until this book. I avoided because of the cover, it was not appealing at first. But one day I was just in so much Plutoian pain that I faced my fears & all of my fears were totally revealed for the first time in my life. It changed everything I did in my life from that time on. I'm glad I finally got over my fears.
This book is essentially about Pluto and how he can temper our hubris. Liz Greene's style may be too 'heavy' for some, but if you are serious about astrology or interested in depth psychology you will find it a gem. The author offers lots of quotes--from Joseph Campbell to James Hillman to Jung. I think these words from Jung best sum up the meaning of 'fate' in the title: "A man who has not passed through the inferno of his passion has never overcome them...whenever we give up, leave behind, and forget too much, there is always the danger that the things we have neglected will return with added force." This book is not only recommended to astrology students. Those with Pluto, Scorpio or 8th house prominent in their natal charts will find it helpful too.
The title of this book might imply a certain hopelessness or a sense of being trapped by Fate. Nothing could be further from the truth. What this book reinforced for me is the knowledge that when we begin to comprehend the necessity behind our existence, there is liberation. When we get down to the bedrock of who we are, we see that our true individuality makes us participants in the journey of our life, not helpless creatures stuck in a vast spider web of someone else's making. The Astrology of Fate reminds me of James Hillman's book, The Soul's Code, which also showed me that in accepting and understanding who I truly am, I can be more than the facts of my life--or the configuration of my stars.
This is about the best book I could recommend on Pluto. I'm a professional Astrologer and have been teaching since 1978 and I frequently recommend this book to my clients and students who want to know more about Pluto. Liz writes extremely well and offers insights I've never read anywhere else. A Masterpiece and a MUST for every student of Astrology!
Simply one of the best books ever produced by modern astrology. Liz Greene's encyclopedic knowledge of mythology reaches its brilliant climax - with her admirable depth of philosophical survey - in this masterwork.
“The discovery of one’s own poisonousness is one of the less attractive aspects of a confrontation with Pluto.”
“The ego is fond of wanting to change everything it finds in the psyche according to its own values and standards, and Pluto’s poison provokes a predictable response: Now that I have seen my ugliness, I find it despicable, and must cure it.”
“Those who believe in reincarnation as a concrete philosophy may take this as the blessing of Pluto: that we mercifully do not remember our fates when we are born. Or we may take it more symbolically; Not only do we mercifully forget what has been written for us at birth, but we also do not remember very well what it was like down in the Great Place Below when a Pluto experience has passed.”
“We do not recall this place, for if we did, we would lose our courage for the future and the next turn of the Great Round.”
“I have also found that experiences of Pluto often coincide with a remembering of what has been forgotten, a rediscovery of grief and rage and hatred that has been numbed and driven underground by the ego for the sake of survival.”
“Where Pluto is found in the horoscope, there is often a forgetting, a necessary repression, and a liability to sudden recollection and the volcanic eruption of poison on an object who may be no more than a catalyst.”
“These are the things which we must forget for a time, in order to live.”
Definitely buy this book if you’re into astrology and mythology! It was so worth it!
Some of the myths and overall insight discussed by the author in Chapter 8 "Myth and the Zodiac" kept ringing in my head for days. I was mesmerized in recognizing hidden aspects of myself and one or two of my closest friends and family regarding some personal characteristics that baffled me in the past. The "clicking in my head" was an uncanny experience, and just this made more than worthwhile reading the book. I have a large attunement to Pluto- Sun, Mars, and Venus within a 4° conjunction with Pluto, Scorpio Moon and Ascendant, and the South node in the 8th house- so I was eager to read all about Pluto. However, the book did not bring forth many great new insights into Fate's forging fist, although I will read it again in the near future. With respect to writing style, although I have the utmost respect for the author, I always find in Ms. Greene's writings the former to be a bit too erudite, not in depth, but a tad heavy due to her intent to be thorough in which, I respectfully feel, that the proverbial nail is hit on the head once too much. Because of this, sometimes my attention tends to wander, and I find myself in need to draw upon discipline to keep my mind focused. I found a printing error in one of the progression lists depicted in the book even though I did not inspected them in full, and also King Henry II on 3/31/1559 became 40 years old (birth 3/31/1519), so he was in his 41st year at the time of his death 7/10/1559 and not in his 42nd year as stated in the book and in the prophecy, according to the book, made by Gauricus about 4 years before. Nostradamus' quatrain referring to this event does not indicate age or date (I apologize for pointing out these minor details but my Sun is in Virgo....fate). Although this, the prophecy is a most remarkable event. All in all, a great and gallant book dealing with a knotty issue about fate and free will, and even though a thorough answer was not truly expected, I perceived the author overall "feeling" on the subject, although I suspect she has more to say that was not put forth in writing.
On a personal level, astrology doesn't click with me. But, I find the myth and lore behind the planets, their respective gods and meanings, utterly fascinating. In our current era, spirituality has taken on a looseness I have come to suspect is more harmful than detrimental. I was once on the band wagon of anti-fate, and while I don't deny the ability to be self-willing, I wonder if there are valuable lessons we can learn as a society on a whole when we view our lives through the lens of Fate.
I found that reading this book was an emotional, sensitive, exciting, and thought provoking experience. It's hard to describe Liz Greene's methods without taking away from the book, but suffice to say, if you have ever felt a burden of fate, seen interweaving of personal stories in your family history, have experienced intense self-hatred arising from a place deep within yourself - you'll find resonance in her words.
It's not an easy read if you're expecting tabloid astrology, or if talking about (or even thinking about) things like family incest, inheritance, sexuality and the like make you squirm. Liz Greene elegantly discusses cultural taboos in a variety of ways whilst showing the interrelationships between cultural taboos, family inheritance, and individual responsibility. I find it beautiful, but others may understandably be uncomfortable - it's not bad, as the book goes deep and hard, discussing suicide of patients, abuse, manipulation, etc.
Try it, read it, think about. I'm not sure if astrology unto itself is the key to our future, and yet, I admire people like Liz Greene who, eschewing the morality and hushing of a Judeo-Christian society, really shines a light on human nature as it truly is - dark, animal, and more wild and mysterious than we can begin to imagine.